I went diving again yesterday and visibility was ok and the surface temperature was 77 degrees. I just am not finding very many fish near the bank or on brush as reported and very few bait fish. The crappie that are on the brush are not stacked in but are permanent residents. If you find a school and catch several and do this for a very few days they are gone. Where I was cartching 10, I am catching one or two. The walleye and crappie have not moved to the bank in 20-25 ft. of water like they usually do in October.They are still in open water on shad. The pattern that is working for me is go 1/2 way back in the creeks where the wind has been blowing for a while and look for shad in 40-45 foot of water suspended about 5-feet from the bottom and drop the 3/4 ounce Bink's spoon on their head. Drop your spoon to the bottom and crank up three turns with a baitcaster or six turns with a spinning reel. Try to stay right on the shad. Walleye, stripers, hybrids, crappie, white bass and bass are all together. What I am finding on the 25-30 ft. brush is Kentucky bass about 12-inches long or less. Almost nothing else. Maybe a stray walleye but not very many. The Kentuckys are biting plastic worms and are fun to catch. You can release them and they will live. Normally I find many walleye and crappie all over brush in 20-30 ft. in October. Not now. It is still too early. We will see what the cooler weather brings. Do not expect to come here now and catch limits of crappie every day. I was doing it but not now. I am still catching some.